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Re: Article comparing FreeBASIC to cyBOSS

Postby D.J.Peters » Oct 06, 2014 15:42

Compare apples and oranges does not make sense. :-)

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Re: Article comparing FreeBASIC to cyBOSS

Postby frisian » Oct 07, 2014 14:35

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You worked hard on your program and then it turns out some else can claim copyright over it.
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Re: Article comparing FreeBASIC to cyBOSS

Postby counting_pine » Oct 07, 2014 17:27

frisian, I don't know where that text came from, but all it's saying is that the P-code generated by a programmer's source code is considered to be a derivative work of that source code.
It's roughly analogous to saying the asm emitted by fbc from a given source code is a derivative of the source code. It's not giving anyone else a copyright claim over your code - it's giving you a copyright claim over the derivative work.

I think given the blog page no longer exists, we can surely say there are no technical flaws about FreeBASIC in it, and we should probably consider this thread as having run its course.
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Re: Article comparing FreeBASIC to cyBOSS

Postby jevans4949 » Oct 07, 2014 19:15

Go through to the sales site, and it isn't released for another month. Put your credit card back in your pocket.

"Lightning fast" ... inasmuch as it's all done by electrons,then any software is lightning fast.

And he doesn't have any friends who are lawyers, either.
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Re: Article comparing FreeBASIC to cyBOSS

Postby frisian » Oct 07, 2014 21:14

counting_pine wrote:frisian, I don't know where that text came from, but all it's saying is that the P-code generated by a programmer's source code is considered to be a derivative work of that source code.
It's roughly analogous to saying the asm emitted by fbc from a given source code is a derivative of the source code. It's not giving anyone else a copyright claim over your code - it's giving you a copyright claim over the derivative work.

I think given the blog page no longer exists, we can surely say there are no technical flaws about FreeBASIC in it, and we should probably consider this thread as having run its course.


Goes to show I no lawyer, thanks for the clarification.
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Re: Article comparing FreeBASIC to cyBOSS

Postby JaDogg » Oct 08, 2014 4:59

About www.cyboss.org : who created that website ? doesn't even have a favicon.
Does it even support Linux ?
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Re: Article comparing FreeBASIC to cyBOSS

Postby angros47 » Oct 08, 2014 8:43

"This site does not exist within the LDAP database. "
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Re: Article comparing FreeBASIC to cyBOSS

Postby badidea » Oct 08, 2014 9:49

I could be wrong but the cyBOSS thing looks more like some kind of scam to me than a serious product.

No history of the website in the WayBackMachine, seems recently launched. And the 'President' of it is looking for sales people:
http://www.meetup.com/Internet-Marketing-Underground/messages/boards/thread/47502052/

According to this http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2612269/pg1#45672839 (which is also a somewhat dubious website, registration required after a few minutes):
The cyBOSS language has many advantages over Python.
But it is not available outside the USA.

And it is high-tech:
Due to export regulations enforced by the United States Department of Commerce, we are only able to ship our high-technology products to geographic locations within the United States of America.
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Re: Article comparing FreeBASIC to cyBOSS

Postby caseih » Oct 09, 2014 3:53

Doesn't mean it's a scam. New companies with products spring up all the time and try their luck in the market. No need to disparage it out of hand. I personally think there's little room in the market for a proprietary BASIC interpreter, but that's only my opinion.
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Re: Article comparing FreeBASIC to cyBOSS

Postby marcov » Oct 09, 2014 9:57

caseih wrote:Doesn't mean it's a scam. New companies with products spring up all the time and try their luck in the market.


I don't think it is a scam either. I think it is simply a one person company trying to resurrect an old product, putting a site based on a presentations and/or other sales oriented pitches online, without much rethinking based on audience. That also explains the lack of practical details, in the presentation they probably were part of a demonstration

No need to disparage it out of hand. I personally think there's little room in the market for a proprietary BASIC interpreter, but that's only my opinion.


It is really hard to be an independent. More and more toolchains like compilers and interpreters are aligned with the vendor of the OS/platform (think Oracle, Microsoft, Apple), which makes them a kind of bundled sells. I think it is hard to really put a general tool against those, regardless of (interpreter, compiler) technology.

IMHO one really needs to identify a submarket to specialize in. (hobby gaming, some upgrade path for an obsolete product, or a market related to some realworld application.)

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