Android Linux
Android Linux
I have managed to produce a number of free programs or Apps if you prefer on my site for various Debian Linux even Puppy in some cases. Admittedly due to my limited knowledge of any Linux I always use the online compiler kindly provided.
I am now wondering if there is any chance of being able to compile FB code for the very popular Android Linux please.
Gordon
I am now wondering if there is any chance of being able to compile FB code for the very popular Android Linux please.
Gordon
Re: Android Linux
Debian and Puppy -->> LinuxSigord wrote:I have managed to produce a number of free programs or Apps if you prefer on my site for various Debian Linux even Puppy in some cases. Admittedly due to my limited knowledge of any Linux I always use the online compiler kindly provided.
I am now wondering if there is any chance of being able to compile FB code for the very popular Android Linux please.
Gordon
Android -->> Google stuff (modified Linux) for mobile devices only (phones etc.).
There is ATM no such thing as an ONLINE COMPILER for anything FreeBASIC related ...
(I remember, that this question popped up earlier in the Forum:
but the thing was: "a free BASIC compiler" and NOT "FreeBASIC"! Two different things.)
Re: Android Linux
What do you think this is then at http://fbc.deltalabs.de/ if not a very nice FB to Debian Linux online compiler to save you bother an risk of inserting a lot of UNIX code in a Linux?
But beware of using it too often or it might treat you as trouble until your IP address get changed after a few days.
But beware of using it too often or it might treat you as trouble until your IP address get changed after a few days.
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I think you're best off installing the compiler yourself on Debian. It's not hard to do, nor is it hard to use. And your limited knowledge of Linux will increase! A double win. If you're still using puppy, it's possible to use fbc on it, but I think a regular distro would be better for your learning experience.
The online compiler is not anything officially associated with FreeBASIC's developers. Unless you really trust the guys running this online compiler site, using binaries produced by any online site outside of a sandbox is very dangerous. You have no idea whether or not malware code is inserted into the resulting binary. Most likely it's fine, but it's very difficult if not impossible to guarantee.
The online compiler is not anything officially associated with FreeBASIC's developers. Unless you really trust the guys running this online compiler site, using binaries produced by any online site outside of a sandbox is very dangerous. You have no idea whether or not malware code is inserted into the resulting binary. Most likely it's fine, but it's very difficult if not impossible to guarantee.
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Thanks all my work at http://www.sigord.co.uk//SubmitsLinux/LinuxSoftware.htm was produced online at the site. I have never had a warning from AVG there are any problems.
Ever since I crashed a PC with Ubuntu I have been very wary of installing any extra software to a Linux especially if it involves me having to do a lot of typing online.
Ever since I crashed a PC with Ubuntu I have been very wary of installing any extra software to a Linux especially if it involves me having to do a lot of typing online.
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I'd go 100% with what caseih wrote above. I've just checked the site:
It's not that difficult if you understand German (which I do).
I personally would NOT trust anything NOT officially FreeBASIC!
The FBC compilers are free and everybody may use them as they choose ...
It's not that difficult if you understand German (which I do).
I personally would NOT trust anything NOT officially FreeBASIC!
The FBC compilers are free and everybody may use them as they choose ...
Re: Android Linux
Don't be afraid of the terminal ("typing online" as you say). If you stick to a non-root user for your messing around, you will not "crash" the computer.
If you're still hesitant to install Linux on your computer, download virtualbox and install Linux into a virtual machine that you can mess with to your hearts content. With VirtualBox you can snapshot the virtual machine and if it gets too messed up, restore it to the last good point. For me, since I'm hesitant to install Windows for similar reasons, I restrict windows to a virtual machine!
If you're still hesitant to install Linux on your computer, download virtualbox and install Linux into a virtual machine that you can mess with to your hearts content. With VirtualBox you can snapshot the virtual machine and if it gets too messed up, restore it to the last good point. For me, since I'm hesitant to install Windows for similar reasons, I restrict windows to a virtual machine!
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TPM provides the online fbc already for quite a long time. I also would trust his service being virus-free, but still I would suggest installing the compiler on your local computer for regular use. First: the provided compiler versions are already quite outdated. Second: compiling locally is a lot faster and more comfortable than uploading and downloading, once set up. Third: installation is not hard at all. Although it's somewhat harder on Linux than on Windows due to the needed dependencies you can't really make it wrong in such a way that you damage your system. There are a lot more reasons, some already mentioned in previous posts.
Regarding FB on Android: there are actually successful ports (just search this forum) but I doubt that you could use any of them, because they aren't online services.
Regarding FB on Android: there are actually successful ports (just search this forum) but I doubt that you could use any of them, because they aren't online services.
Re: Android Linux
It does not seem clear in this forum whether like some there are any restrictions to posting URL addresses. If not I will post the URLs to below.
There are CDs available on EBay and the files to download for free from China of an android-x86 OS for all PCs and Laptops etc. This seems very important as presumably Android is the most widely used Linux such as in Smartphones etc. I have tested the CD and in spite of the way Android was designed for Touch Screens it seems to work perfectly with just a mouse. Like many other Linux the bootable CD offers a safe way to test it temporary in RAM as well as a full install after the reformat of the whole drive.
Now Android should be able to work on any PC, Laptop or Tablet it would be interesting to see how many Apps in FB code work with it. But I am baffled that the only way it seems to be able accept Apps is from the massive Google Play Centre. I managed to copy the CD and create an ISO from it which in turn I transferred to a bootable Flash Drive using free Rufus for where say a Laptop has no Disk drive.
Gordon
There are CDs available on EBay and the files to download for free from China of an android-x86 OS for all PCs and Laptops etc. This seems very important as presumably Android is the most widely used Linux such as in Smartphones etc. I have tested the CD and in spite of the way Android was designed for Touch Screens it seems to work perfectly with just a mouse. Like many other Linux the bootable CD offers a safe way to test it temporary in RAM as well as a full install after the reformat of the whole drive.
Now Android should be able to work on any PC, Laptop or Tablet it would be interesting to see how many Apps in FB code work with it. But I am baffled that the only way it seems to be able accept Apps is from the massive Google Play Centre. I managed to copy the CD and create an ISO from it which in turn I transferred to a bootable Flash Drive using free Rufus for where say a Laptop has no Disk drive.
Gordon
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Android-x86 already exists for many years - there's nothing new. More important, it is nearly irrelevant in practice as nearly all Android devices use an ARM architecture. There were already successful ports to Android, just search this Forum. v1ctor currently ports FB to Javascript, which would also allow to run it on Android. For testing I would choose an emulator with a system image provided by Microsoft or Google instead of a custom install.
Afaik there's no restriction to posting URLs from the technical perspective, BUT be sure to post only as much as useful for the reader. For background information and long URLs it's usually best to put the link on the relevant keywords, like this.
Afaik there's no restriction to posting URLs from the technical perspective, BUT be sure to post only as much as useful for the reader. For background information and long URLs it's usually best to put the link on the relevant keywords, like this.
Re: Android Linux
Sigord there's no need to buy CDs on Ebay or download from random chinese sources. An effort to develop an x86 Android distribution from AOSP sources is found at: http://www.android-x86.org/
At one time there was talk of merging the Android kernel with the stock Linux kernel which would theoretically allow Dalvik to run on any Linux distribution, perhaps in a chroot or something. But the movement away from Dalvik to ARC, and the existence of the ARC runtime for Chrome kind of eliminates the need to run Android on a normal Linux distribution.
Just a nitpick with this whole topic, though. Android is Linux in the sense that it runs a modified Linux kernel, and you can run a regular linux distribution user-space on top of it (say in a chroot). But I'm hard pressed to call Android "Linux" in the same sense as a Linux distribution is. I don't consider it to be the same operating system.
At one time there was talk of merging the Android kernel with the stock Linux kernel which would theoretically allow Dalvik to run on any Linux distribution, perhaps in a chroot or something. But the movement away from Dalvik to ARC, and the existence of the ARC runtime for Chrome kind of eliminates the need to run Android on a normal Linux distribution.
Just a nitpick with this whole topic, though. Android is Linux in the sense that it runs a modified Linux kernel, and you can run a regular linux distribution user-space on top of it (say in a chroot). But I'm hard pressed to call Android "Linux" in the same sense as a Linux distribution is. I don't consider it to be the same operating system.
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Thanks guys for all the info. But being in my 80s and strictly an amateur never having been employed in any IT much of you r posts I regret I cannot understand. Which is why I and most of my friends take the easy way out and are happy to pay a little for an EBay disk. That way if it fails to work we have somewhere to complain.
So I am suggesting to my friends if the they have an older PC with an unsafe versions of Windows, instead of dumping the PC rather than pay up to £100 for the latest Windows they test the Android CD with a view to installing it. After all many PC users especially the elderly mainly only use a PC for browsing, email and perhaps a little music, all within the capabilities of this little Android.
So I am suggesting to my friends if the they have an older PC with an unsafe versions of Windows, instead of dumping the PC rather than pay up to £100 for the latest Windows they test the Android CD with a view to installing it. After all many PC users especially the elderly mainly only use a PC for browsing, email and perhaps a little music, all within the capabilities of this little Android.